Joe Grundy

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  Retiring today!

  by iamfreenow in

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  today is my 60th birthday, so i am now officially retired!

  actually, my last day at work was yesterday, and my colleagues gave me flowers, wine, chocolate and took me out to lunch.. this is the first birthday i've ever had as a non jehovahs witness, and it feels very strange to be even acknowledging it, let alone celebrating.

  i am going out tomorrow evening with trev, linda and a few other fading or former jws for a curry at a local restaraunt, which i'm very much looking forward to.

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  Joe Grundy

  Congratulations, Marion.

  I can thoroughly recommend this retirement business.

  Best Wishes
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  WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.

  is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.

  if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.

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  Joe Grundy

  I'm sorry to hear that many young JWs have problems with masturbation. Couldn't WTBTS publish an article outlining techniques that have worked well for others?

  'There was a young sailor named Tex

  Who avoided premarital sex

  By thinking of Jesus

  And sexual diseases

  And beating his meat below decks.'
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  HELP PLEASE - Youngster At Risk

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (i am not, never have been, a jw.

  i am an apostate of the whore of babylon and have been awarded the title of honorary apostate here.).

  i very recently posted about how i had come into contact with a poster on an entirely unrelated mb whose step-daughter (age about 12) was, i concluded, studying with jws along with her natural mum.

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks, Linda.

  You are, as ever, a star!

  Joe
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  HELP PLEASE - Youngster At Risk

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (i am not, never have been, a jw.

  i am an apostate of the whore of babylon and have been awarded the title of honorary apostate here.).

  i very recently posted about how i had come into contact with a poster on an entirely unrelated mb whose step-daughter (age about 12) was, i concluded, studying with jws along with her natural mum.

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks to all for the information, which has been passed on.

  It looks as though battle may be about to commence.

  For opening shots, can anyone please provide a quick link to the 'Bethel Christmas celebration' photos which I know I've seen somewhere here? This will be question no. 1 to the 'bible study' conductor, as in 'when and why did God change his maind about celebrating Christmas?'

  Thanks in anticipation.
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  An anniversary of sorts today

  by fullofdoubtnow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i didn't realise it, but trev just told me that today is one year to the date since i first visited him at his home to do some research on the internet about the wts.

  i hadn't been going to all the meetings for a while at that time, and the month before i came here i hadn't been at all, but was unsure, despite my doubts, whether i wanted to leave the jws then or not.

  i read on quotes, freeminds and this site, and trev printed some stuff for me to read later.

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  Joe Grundy

  Congratulations - and thanks for your help.
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  If this doesn't scream mind control, nothing will

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this poem was written by a 15 year old jw to encourage one of my younger relatives to get back to the kh.

  to get to the meeting ahead of time.

  to make our way to the counter to get in line .

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  Joe Grundy

  But hopefully, in a few years,

  After all the pain and tears

  I'll look back with opened eyes

  And that's when I will realise

  What the Watchtower did to me

  I'm not the girl that I could be.

  I can't forget, I won't forgive,

  My revenge will be to LIVE.
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  In Ireland, JW's may sue over blood transfusion

  by Kenneson in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in an unprecedented case, an irish judge overruled an adult woman jehovah's witness objection to blood transfusions.

  in the past, only children had been forced to have transfusions where deemed necessary.

  when the story first broke out, there were several ambiguities and questions unanswered.

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks for the clarification. I understand better now.

  And yes, I am Welsh but now living in Cyprus where there is more sunshine and less rain! Slainte
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  In Ireland, JW's may sue over blood transfusion

  by Kenneson in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in an unprecedented case, an irish judge overruled an adult woman jehovah's witness objection to blood transfusions.

  in the past, only children had been forced to have transfusions where deemed necessary.

  when the story first broke out, there were several ambiguities and questions unanswered.

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  Joe Grundy

  Apologies for Eire/Ireland!

  The constitutional issue, as I understand it, would be in relation to the woman's human rights, i.e. that she had a medical treatment imposed upon her by the state against her will.

  A couple of thoughts arise. First, the court ruling as I understand it was to protect the child's interests because at the time it was made it was considered that it would have been an orphan with no support network whatsoever should the mother die.

  Second, as I understand it under Irish law, the child became an Irish citizen (or at least entitled to citizenship) at birth, so the state had an obligation to protect the child.

  Third, if the law in Ireland is the same as in E&W, one can sue to obtain reparation/compensation for a wrong already done, or to force somebody to do something (madamus) or cease doing something (ceriatori). I can see how the woman might sue for an arbitrary figure for damages for assault, etc. Is there a possibility that the state may appoint someone to act on behalf of the child?

  In E&W there is a procedure - rarely used - where the Attorney-General will take a case to the High Court/House of Lords where the issue is so important that a definitive ruling is required. Presumably the same could apply here.

  I entirely accept your point about the constitutional issues. I can't help feeling, however, that the more 'sensational' media would make a hell of a meal of this in the 'Crazy Cult Woman Wanted To Die' type mode (let alone issues re being an immigrant) and that any savvy PR guy for WTBTS would be weighing this up (divine light/guidance notwithstanding).

  But I speak as an outsider (not now, never have been, a JW etc.) and not as an Irish citizen or resident (although a fellow Celt), and I bow to your knowledge of the feelings re the issues involved.

  Regards
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  In Ireland, JW's may sue over blood transfusion

  by Kenneson in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in an unprecedented case, an irish judge overruled an adult woman jehovah's witness objection to blood transfusions.

  in the past, only children had been forced to have transfusions where deemed necessary.

  when the story first broke out, there were several ambiguities and questions unanswered.

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  Joe Grundy

  This could be very interesting.

  In my humble (and layman's) opinion:

  1. WTBTS/the dubs could not be a party to the litigation - it would have to be the woman concerned as sole plaintiff

  2. The medical authorities would have an unassailable defence against a suit for assault because they were acting in accordance with a court order

  3. Possible suit against the medical authorities for misrepresentation/negligence in collecting and presenting the evidence to the court when applying for the order? Difficult to prove, i would have thought.

  4. If the legal position in Eire is the same as in UK, individual judges etc. cannot be sued for their judicial decisions

  5. Possibly an action in a higher court (or Eurpean Court) for breach of the woman's human rights under ECHR? Possible, but on what basis could she ask for damages/compensation? And the breach has now finished if it existed at all so she couldn't sue for an order to desist (ceriatori?)

  6. I don't know anything about the Legal Aid system in Eire, but suspect she may have difficulty in getting funding.

  7. I can't see that WTBTS would fund her. The publicity surrounding this case could, I suspect, be enough to outweigh the JW's efforts in door-to-door work for years to come.
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  HELP PLEASE - Youngster At Risk

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (i am not, never have been, a jw.

  i am an apostate of the whore of babylon and have been awarded the title of honorary apostate here.).

  i very recently posted about how i had come into contact with a poster on an entirely unrelated mb whose step-daughter (age about 12) was, i concluded, studying with jws along with her natural mum.

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks for these. Duly passed on.

  Anything else gladly received.